It is, passersby, not passerbys. Sorry, that should read - And where the S goes doesn't depend on the grammatical nature of the components either. Sure makes life a little easier and less contentious, unless one is obsessively compelled to accept only black-and-white, all-or-nothing single versions, which gets really complicated since most words have more than one definition. “You’re Somebody Else” by flora cashListen to flora cash: https://floracash.lnk.to/listenYD Subscribe to the official flora cash YouTube … 4 votes You say that we can tell because you can ask a question like, "Where did the passers pass?" Someone's else can never be correct - that would mean that someone possesses an else... hmm - what is an else? I personally feel that “passer-bys” is more correct, especially when you remove the hyphen (”passerbys”). Though (I suppose) this thread is closed, may I add that, for me, "someone else's" is quite clearly a reference in the "possessive" sense, rather than "plural" sense.On the other hand and as has been already discussed, "passer-by" and "passers-by" (hyphens may be incorrect as has been pointed out) are references with respect to numbers, being singular and plural. Their point was that neither 'passersby' nor 'touchdown' is a noun + adjective construction (despite the apparent assumptions to the contrary of both eaglesight777 and yourself). And there is no such thing as a general concensus. "Ok genius, good luck"! This is a really neat feature. Eagle... said passers-by is a noun + adjective construction, but it is not. Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own. According to AutoInsureSavings, it's inadvisable to have someone else insure your vehicle. You will not understand the world around you nearly as well as someone who knows and understands the correct usage of the language. We have to think what the main word in the compound is, rather than position. However, for words like playoff or blastoff, they are not hyphenated words, and as such, would only be pluralized at the ending. Do not keep us waiting ;), 6 votes Obvious that BrockawayBaby is open to both sides. Learn More. Is “someone else’s” grammatically correct? This is not a noun + adjective. I hoping that you're very young. The correct plural for "passer-by" is "passers-by". A touchdown is a similar construction - the score occurs when the player touches down in the end zone. It is instructive, but it is far from refuting the noun + adjective construction for which I have argued. Eeeek! He or she made the touch down on the field in the end zone. D. Submit your question here. I suspect not though, as these words are generally not used by very young people. I found it cute & shared it via my Facebook Timeline for others to enjoy as well. But for fun I'll go along with your evasion by saying that, in the U.S., hairyscot is good at argumentation. Good enough. @BrockwayBaby If you read carefully, you'll see that Grmrtchr never said that 'passersby' is a verb + adjective construction. Had a reputable dictionary been consulted in this case, Dyske would have learned that the correct spelling is "passersby. Report Abuse, One small note: "passerby" and "passersby" do not have hyphens (according to Webster's dictionary), 8 votes (Entry 1 of 2) 1 a : in a different manner or place or at a different time how else could he have acted here and nowhere else. After all, British and American English differ but simply reflect two different standards. Perhaps you are you in Utah,Not that it's a flaw, But I would call one a grandmaw! Pierluigi’s domain names may not look valuable to me, but who cares what I think when I am not the target audience. Fill in the blank with else, or else, elses. In the case of 'touchdown,' as I mentioned above, you have a point. I should probably just navigate away from this page... 3 votes Someone Else is the first opening of the Working!! The login record can be accessed via the Account Activity page described above. Permalink But hey, as long as you have that terrific view from the top of you high horse, what do you care? ", "The general consensus" is not what determines if English grammar or spelling is correct. This, a big hit in the UK charts of 1960, answers your question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r1usQ221A0, Someone else's babySomeone else's eyes are blueSomeone else's babySomeone else's five-foot-two, Oh, who's got a hold upNine carat gold loveI wonder who's in the loveseatWho's got a heartbeat, like thunder, If I acted badI could steal his fairy queenI know he'll be madBut I can't resist the thought of being kissed, By someone else's babySomeone else's special dateSomeone else's babySomeone else is kinda late, He'd better mind outShe's gonna find out I love herThis little fellah is gonna tell herThat someone else is me, Well, if I acted badI could steal his fairy queenI know he'll be madBut I can't resist the thought of being kissed, Oh, he'd better mind outShe's gonna find out I love herThis little fellow is gonna tell herThat someone else is me. The following other terms are also made up of a noun and an adjective, and would also be pluralized in the same silly way if the "passersby" people had their way: one push up - two pushes up (sits up, pulls up, etc. does THEIR mean the person named (if so use singular her or his) or does it mean the group of other posters? E.g., "This is someone else's blog entry." If you were in a serious accident, you could cause that person's insurance premiums to go way up. So we have mothers-in-law, but stepmothers and grandmothers, all types of mother. What disturbs me is not unique to Dyske. If you provide the driver’s Emerald Club information, we will use the member’s account number, preferences, and other profile details when creating the reservation. Touchdowns. Report Abuse. Where is the touch (understood here as a noun)? What concerns me is that I hear people say, or read comments where they think that if they are, "...not in English class, what difference does it make?" 'Passersby' is correct, as is 'playoffs'. It's a verb + adverb. Verb + adverb. It answers the question "Where did the passers pass?" Right: "Someone else's" is a possessive. Stop myself from reaching out. Owners/moderators of this page: you may want to reexamine your idea. This is because the word "by" is being used as an adjective modifying the noun "passer". Yes - but that is one word. Found the link to see what objections there might be to "someone else's," as in "I think this is someone else's pen, not mine! Up, down, etc. The song talks about a breakup, worrying your ex-lover already found someone else, and the No matter what difficulty she experiences, there’s always someone or something else to blame for it, but not her. Laurie, your post literally made me laugh out loud. Under the grammar tyrant rule, the plural of "playoff" should actually be "playsoff." How to play your Amazon Echo music from someone else's Alexa speaker. Julia Spiro handles these difficult issues gracefully by pulling us into her fictional journey but also elevating the voices of women everywhere who are sure to recognize a part of themselves along the … Do you have a question? ;), Just one more thing:Whose: mother-in-law's, 10 votes 24-Hour Proofreading Service—We proofread your Google Docs or Microsoft Word files. Nobody above has mentioned the added level of awkwardness when it comes to the possessive forms of these words.. and it gets even worse with the possessive plurals. Report Abuse. A local TV station has a segment called "The Turko Files." The other main point there is about nominalization of verb + adverb constructions. An adverb, such as else, cannot be made possesive. Leaving questions of spelling or grammar to what a group of people think is correct will often lead you to the wrong answer. Seems somewhat clearer and reads better, I think.. 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